Anybody would like would like to lead us all (Pinoy SINGERS and MUSICIANS) here from depth???

Anybody would like would like to lead us all (Pinoy SINGERS and MUSICIANS) from depth???
Anybody here would like to nominate himself???
Anybody here who has this qualifications and great courage to lead us all up there???
Anybody who has power and determined ... ???
Anybody who wants to stands here before us Members or every PINOY SINGERS and MUSICIANS??? (around the globe)

Pls. we are all here at PMN... really will appreciate... we're all waiting....
Pls. don't just listen to our voices... or pretend that you never heard anything from us here...
Coz the truth is.... we're all have been waiting... a long time ago.........................
Coz all We need is a little of some respect and some piece of space... in our Government (Philippines)
Not war... to fight for justice... but all we ask... was hope and hopefully you heard our voices...

If we really want to start this....... ?????????????? Now is the right time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ............
Not tomorrow... not next week..... not next month... not next year... not next decade... not next generations...

If we started this...............??????????????
We have to make sure that we'll fight for this (I didn't mean thru' war) just in a peacefull way!
Coz when that time comes............. there's no turning back............

If we started this... and then leave it that way... or leave it hanging???
Or we'll just stay here and keep our fingers busy... at PMN... let go off all our Ideas...
or just crying out loud...... or debate.......... etc.................. ???

Remember!!! ACTIONS speaks LOUDER than WORDS.......... coz really ... these key words is our only hope and chance... to get over with.......

I guess it's time to move on......... Coz if we don't.......... nothing will happen....
or else........ Our fight for our justice will end up "UNRESTRAINED and SENSELESS...

Take your pick............................. it's all up to you guys (PMNners)..........................

I can be only a good follower.................................................... P E A C E ..............

GOD SPEED PMNners.......

P E A C E

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This is just my two cents worth,
Before we can truly clamour for a leader or a "messiah" - for a lack of a better term - to take us out of our very bad state, we must first look at our ranks if we really are worthy of being helped. Our immediate goal is to look at our ranks - marami man tayong mga musikero but I think we are not that too many to not be supervised. We look at our ranks? Because marami sa atin ang wala naman talagang talent pero nakakabiyahe, getting the gigs of the top bars, at minsan nakakakuha pa ng recording contract. Have you ever asked yourself this? Bakit ang tagal na natin sa industriya pero hindi pa rin tayo nakakakuha ng break? Bakit araw araw ensayo ako nang ensayo, research ako nang research, pinababayaan ko na minsan sarili ko pero wala pa rin nangyayari? Samantalang yung mga may contact lang sa loob, mga guwapo, mga sexy at magaganda nakakakuha ng mataas na budget sa puwesto at biyahe?

Worse, we have been infiltrated by posers! These people are posing as musicians nag aaply sa biyahe pero pag dating sa biyahe nagiging anything but! I remember one of the reasons ARB was abolished because a lot of women used the ARB to get work permit in Japan, mag-aaply dito sa Pinas as musicians pero prostitute pala ang totoong trabaho.

Siguro salain muna natin ang mga sarili natin bago tayo huminingi ng saklolo sa gobiyerno. In that way the government will take us more seriously dahil tayong lahat ay maaayos na tao at nagpupursigi sa careers natin.

Ngayon yung mga iba na we think na hindi pa dapat isalang sa stage, kailangan i-train muna sila at magsikap by learning their craft and self practice.

If all these is placed, then hindi na tayo iisnabin ng gobiyerno at sigurado magkakaroon na tayo ng supporta sa Malacanang.
Bryan is right...nakakahiya --minsan nanonood ako ng mga gigs (mahirap magsalita dahil may masasaktan) and --videos... I asked, "entertainers ba ikako sila o dancers na kumakanta kanta?" Pag sinabing singer, DAPATTTT SINGER talaga!! E hita and "BOOBS" ipinakikita, hindi boses ang inilalabas. Ano ba yan? TRAIN MUNA KAYO!!!! (Iba na yung HONED...kahit saan dalhin, fantastico.)
saan sila pumasa? sa night classes sa Dewey o sa (PCH) Pacific Coast Highway? Bakit ang standard ba nating mga Pinoy bumaba na? Masama bang mataas ang standard norm?

Hello? (mabuti na lang wala akong BOOBS!!!!) ARAAYYYYY koo!!!!
Lin Fernandez said:
Bryan is right...nakakahiya --minsan nanonood ako ng mga gigs (mahirap magsalita dahil may masasaktan) and --videos... I asked, "entertainers ba ikako sila o dancers na kumakanta kanta?" Pag sinabing singer, DAPATTTT SINGER talaga!! E hita and "BOOBS" ipinakikita, hindi boses ang inilalabas. Ano ba yan? TRAIN MUNA KAYO!!!! (Iba na yung HONED...kahit saan dalhin, fantastico.)
saan sila pumasa? sa night classes sa Dewey o sa (PCH) Pacific Coast Highway? Bakit ang standard ba nating mga Pinoy bumaba na? Masama bang mataas ang standard norm?

Hello? (mabuti na lang wala akong BOOBS!!!!) ARAAYYYYY koo!!!!

Pasintabi sa mga batang nagbabanda ngayon pero eto ang totoo: karamihan sa kanila walang respeto sa mga nakatatanda nilang musikero! Kung alam lang nila ang mga pinagdaanan ng mga seniyor sa industriya, siguro mahihiya sila.
These kids never had it easier. 30 years ago, kailangan pang bumili ng plaka, mag-aambag ambag ang mga magkakabanda para mabili yung lp o 45. Sabay sabay sisipra mga yan because not all of them has a turntable. Yung iba naman, magsasakripisiyo na maghulog nang mgahulog ng 25cents sa jukebox para maaral yung dapat pondohin. Ngayon, download lang sa internet wala pang gaanong gastos! E nung araw thirty pesos na lp e pang dalawang araw na kakainin na nag pamilya yun! Yung piso na pambili ng 45 isang merienda na! And the audience expects them to play it 100% exactly like the record, pati vocalist dapat gayahin ang boses. You are considered an inferior musician if you don't parrot the record.
Ang lyrics ganun din ngayon, kokopyanhin lang sa internet ready na! Noon, sisiprahin mo nang maigi ang lyrics at kahit parang kinakain na ng vocalista ang kinakanta sa plaka, you are still required to get the lyrics right.
The musicians of yesterday have total dedication to their craft, dahil hindi sila aasenso kung ang pagbabasehan nila ang hitsura nila. No matter if all are good looking, kung hindi pulido ang tugtugan, wala silang trabaho. Ang mga banda ngayon, magpakita lang ng boobs, butt and legs pagkakaguluhan na ng mga promoter sa biyahe. Ang mga instrumentalist, walang research! Nakakaasar yung mga batang sinasabi, "R&B lang kami!" Paano, iisa o dalawang akorde lang ang mga yun. Pasiprahin mo ng Al Jarreau yun unang verse pa lang iiyak na sila.
At eto ang pinakamasakit. Pagdating sa biyahe, syosyotain ang mga customers at huhuthutan ng limpak limpak na salapi tapos iiwanan luhaan. Asan na ang respeto ng mga ito sa sarili? Ang malupit dito, nagkakaroon ngayon ng stigma ang mga foreigners sa atin na nananamantala.
I don't think seriously we need the government's help NOW. Ayusin muna natin ang mga sarili natin. Kung ganiyan ang magiging solusiyon natin, sama ako riyan!
kailangan ko ng tuwalya (naiyak ako)...Bryan --salamat-nagsalita ka--kung sa akin yan mangagaling--masama si lin--masyado si lin, sungit si lin, taga saan ba si lin, nakanta ba si lin?--asus--dito lang ako nagbibiro--alam ninyo akoy seryoso --dito e napagsabihan akong masungit, mayabang mataas magsalita...masama bang tutruan ang hindi marunong?--di ba kaya kayo nag aaral?--napasok sa escuela? para matuto? ...sa akin libre ang mga paa lala...gusto kong maging maganda ang mga tugtog ninyo--hasain ang talent para laong bigay na bigay---aba ang aim natin, tayoy mabigyan ng magandang papuri...hindi pintas...
yung panlalalake konting hinay--mahahalata kayo...boses ang hasain hindi puwet!!!kkkhhhiikkk...nakuuu--hayan natatawa ako kasi sabi ni Bryan--train muna---o ano, di ba tama naman...--natatawa ako dahil panay hita ang nakikita ko at saka bewang--ganon pa man--dapat lang merong talent--yung pag nakanta eh --hindi nakatingin sa ASS yung audience -kundi sa performance...

kasi naman ang mga lalaki--panay hita at boobs ang hinahanap na repertiore ng mga singers---pag hindi --sexy ang banda --aalis!! kaya di masisisi magsootan ng mga sexing damit--

Di ba SEX is very good advertisement kahit saan ka magpunta---SEX sells!!!
Itanong nyo na lang sa mga kapatid ko...kay April, Pearl, Edna and Darwin f--serious ako lagi-talagang masungit--(menopausing) -PMN lang nakakapagpatawa sa akin...I love it here ..I get to write with you guys and have fun--kaya naman mga anak--hasain ang talents ok? Halimbawa--- yung word na PURCHASE---(to buy) pronunciation --eh hindi pur -- CHEYS --the right pronunciation /diction in a song is per -chess. yung mga word na cold (cowld), where (h-where), the (dhee), of, (OV) --because--(bi-coz) --kung kakanta ng Inggles, gayahin ninyo ang bigkas ng mga words...as is!!!!DAFAT lang!!!
O sige---aral kayo ha...tawagan ninyo ako --if you have any questions...libre to..walng tutor's fee. lahat kayo A students..yung accents itago pag nakanta...my $.02 ..ingat kayo lagi..
Bro,Lou,why dont you try to lead the association?tama c Sis len,dont judge first,pag may time at pagkakataon do it just for the good of our sisters and brothers sa industria,wala tayong ibang takbuhan kundi sa nga tulad din natin,kung kay Manny Boy nman ok din sana,kaya lang malayo din sya eh,what we need yong madaling makapunta sa pinas,for presentations,kung ano man ang kailangan para ma formalize ang association thru SEC,at marepresent tayo sa Government,Manny boy has the Qualification to lead this association ang tanong payag nman kaya?,another one is sister Len,yon din ang problem malayo din,c Marlou woww busy din,c Raoul at Norma puede rin,ang hanap ntin yong may puso at balls ika nga ni Len,at higit sa lahat dedication sa group,and ready to sacrifice, God bless all...
salamat brod and I am very pleased to meet you 'Nes..nasaan ka ba ngayon? ala eyyy--we need your support --baka pwede kitang i--nominate sa BOT?

pwede ka BROD? visit my page pls.. and let me know... T Y and INGAT!
hi everyone..a good day to all..
being a leader is not an easy thing to do..
all of us is a leader itself..i really do appreciate those people who really stands for this..
i don't know who to nominate for i am just a new fellow..i myself is very willing to support u all..
i maybe young but age doesnt matter it is how u bring urself towards others and towards ur responsibilities..u urself knows on wat u deserve..
a leader is like being a parent..i hope we can find that person..i will suport u guys..

god bless and more power to pmn!!!!!
This happened to me recently. Our band is looking for additional vocalist to beef up our sound. I contacted more than 20 people and some of them are members of PMN. I don't expect all of the to reply. So out of the 20 anim lang ang sumagot sa text ko. I scheduled for an audition and all of the people who responded agreed to show up at the audition. Ayun pag dating sa studio - walang nagpakita. Hindi man lang nagsabi na di makakapunta ang masama pa run, umoo pa na pupunta the day before. When I tried to text them bakit hindui pumunta, walang sumagot, parang iniiwasan ako.

We are trying to put respectability back to our profession pero sangkatutak na unprofessionalism ang nakikita natin. Yun ang pinupunto ko, naghahanap tayo ng "messiah" para iahon tayo sa mahirap na lagay ng musikerong Pinoy pero kasimple simpleng bagay na pumunta sa audition o magsabi na di makakapunta di pa magawa. Pag tinanong iiwasan ka pa.

Kung sa simpleng bagay na pagsipot sa usapan di magawa, isipin niyo na lang pag nakabiyahe na. Anong mga kilos na unprofessionalism ang gagawin ng mga yun?

I sometimes wish that we all go back to 20-30 years ago that almost all musicians are dedicated to their craft. They will do WAHATEVER IT TAKES to be the best professional musician they can be.

Ngayon, "basta may quick buck o easy money dun ako. Wala akong paki kung may masagasaan akong tao basta kikita ako."

I talked to a fellow musician a few days back and he is lamenting the sad state things. Lalong lalo na sa mga baguhang musikero na hindi nadisiplina. Ang ginagawa nila, "Band Hopping". And he is afraid SOP na ito halos ng mga baguhan. Ayaw nang mag-audition, ayaw nang mag-ensayo, ayaw nang sumipra ng piyesa, ayaw mag-commit sa banda sa alam nilang maraming naghahanap ng musikero, sa madali't salita - AYAW MAGSAKRIPISIYO.

We are also playing a big part kaya tayo andito sa lugmok na kalagayan natin.

Paano natin maiaalis ito? I humbly ask my elders in the industry.
Greetings to All!
I agree, Professionalism is very important to all musician, if they want to be respected in the industry.
I tried to connect "bond" with PMN members in Manila, but to no avail. We ca'nt even meet and talk??
I'm sorry, but most of the discussion about the UPMNA leaders? I think is going back to step 1, or going back in circles. We are in the process of electing 5 Board of Trustees (refer to latest discussion). OMY
Omy Clemente said:
Greetings to All!
I agree, Professionalism is very important to all musician, if they want to be respected in the industry.
I tried to connect "bond" with PMN members in Manila, but to no avail. We ca'nt even meet and talk??
I'm sorry, but most of the discussion about the UPMNA leaders? I think is going back to step 1, or going back in circles. We are in the process of electing 5 Board of Trustees (refer to latest discussion). OMY

Sir Omy, the problem is especially the new breed of "musicians", I don't think they would want anything like a leader to watch over them.
Sa sampung baguhang musikero, dalawa lang ang masasabi kong totoong professionals. Ang pinupuntirya ko mga vocalists especially mga babae! Ayaw nang sumama sa banda na:
1. Starting
2. Nag-eensayo
3. May audition
Gusto nila walang kahirap hirap na AALIS NA LANG PAPUNTANG BIYAHE O SESSIONISTA LANG! Anong mukha ang ipapakita natin sa madla kung masiyado tayong ganid sa pera?

Pasensiya na Sir, hindi sa kinokontra ko mga senior sa industriya na kailangan ng "messiah" pero unless we are able to identify the ways to stop this trend of unprofessionalism, hindi pa natin kailangan.

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